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It can be utilized in addition to Wake Induced Lucid Dreams (falling back asleep physically, while keeping your mind awake mentally) or Dream Induced Lucid Dreams (simply realizing you're dreaming mid-dream)
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or etc.
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WILDs are impossible for me as my brain is incredibly strict about only being 100% awake or 100% asleep (probably why I can't nap as well), but I've trained myself to notice I'm dreaming pretty dang well
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With good reality-checking habits and dream signs
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Every time i try wild i just get into a weird state of forgetting what i'm trying to do and ending up moving my body qnd waking up Every time i try dild, my dreams are more dissociative than normal, but nothing much changes other than that
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It is very difficult to keep your brain active while shutting your body down for sleep. Sleep is inherently parts of your brain going to rest.
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It's much easier for some people than others
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Some people experience hypnagogia/especially hypnopompia (waking up version) so consistently they actively choose to interact with their tulpas in that time
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And then others are like me, lol
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Years of trying every lucid dreaming technique and having zero success outside of training myself to randomly realize I'm dreaming more often, in waking life
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Yeah that's sorta where i'm at
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So for me, causing vivid dreams is equivalent to increasing lucid dream chance
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We get hypnogogic hallucinations very frequently, but at least our experience with them would be hard to wrench anything control out of
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not a typo btw, for whatever linguistic weirdness reason, the words are "Hypnagogia" and "Hypnopompia"
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Would be nice if they were both hypno- though
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One time I became aware while asleep, but not during a dream. So it was just dark and blank ha ha
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Kei Wendt
Yeah i'd like to think i'm getting closer since i've been having more moments in dreams where i've done a reality check and gone "huh this is a dream" but it's never led to awareness for me so idkk
Anyways, it sounds like your problem is pretty clearly a lack of discipline/focus when reality checking
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Practice your reality checks in waking life, making sure you become more aware when doing them - become more aware of your environment and senses, and gather yourself mentally to focus on what you would want to do if you just became lucid in a dream
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I just wish i could actually succeed at it But my dreams have always felt less like i was experiencing them and more like they were imposed upon me. For example, i often experience dreams in third person, and every action 'i' try to do (not because i'm aware of ut being a dream, but because i think of what i should do in the dream somehow?) ends up being cancelled out by the dream's course of action
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Also, establishing dream signs can help with reality checking a lot, meaning finding scenarios/objects/people/etc. that often occur in your dreams and associating them with remembering to reality check
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Reisen
Practice your reality checks in waking life, making sure you become more aware when doing them - become more aware of your environment and senses, and gather yourself mentally to focus on what you would want to do if you just became lucid in a dream
I'll try but i'm a little discouraged
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Totally random what those are for each person
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And lastly, remember to ALWAYS REALITY CHECK AFTER WAKING UP FROM A LUCID DREAM
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More often than not when I "wake up" after being lucid in a dream, it's a false awakening where I'm just dreaming that I woke up
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And if you fall for that, you fall back into dream context and become un-lucid again
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It's very disappointing afterwards (edited)
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Also lucid dreaming is fine to discuss in non-#metaphysics channels :P
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"shifting" makes me cringe though so keep that here
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By the way, talking or reading about dream stuff to the extent we just did has an extremely high chance of causing you to remember more dreams tomorrow, as well as increasing your chances of realizing you're dreaming tonight
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Not placebo, just a time-tested observation
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Guess it's like improving your dream recall, exercising the dreaming-related parts of your brain wakes them up for a bit (edited)
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Interesting
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Telling someone irl about a lucid dream I had, gave me another lucid dream just a day or two later. I was saying how next time I'll try XYZ and then, well, I got the opportunity to. Of course, you can't share a lucid dream if you don't have one...
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We like MILD techniques, though, prospecting how a dream might go and become lucid etc
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IF I recall there is something called the gateway process is there not...? That would be interesting to see people study it.
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Kei 🍄 ↩️
Reply to: The fun part is even if you don't believe in shifting you can lucid dream Since that has been scient…
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I do believe one of my devices has the documents downloaded if anybody is interested or if the PDF is still up I can send it.
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Personally... I need reality checks in reality to know that I am even sentient... So I can't relate. Pff....
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Luminesce ↩️
Reply to: And lastly, remember to ALWAYS REALITY CHECK AFTER WAKING UP FROM A LUCID DREAM
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IF I recall there is something called the gateway process is there not...? That would be interesting to see people study it.
You mean shifting through a lucid dream portal?
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The gateway process is a scientific document.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear... I'm single handedly speaking a person who's emotions are quite unstable + around here at once along with planning something I gotta do soon..
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Is that the CIA one
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Yes exactly that one!
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The gateway experience is not by CIA and it's not a scientific document The internet game of telephone is getting out of hand with this one
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“Analysis and assessment of the gateway process”
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Idk if it’s in reference to another document (the gateway process)
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It is by the CIA but I would not call if scientific
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Well, the CIA made a document, but the Gateway Experience is a program by the Monroe Institute (edited)
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Why they both have to use the word gateway
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I guess people don't read up on it at all then? idk what to think
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The CIA looked into the Gateway Experience and wrote the document about it
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They didn't make it, they just wrote about it
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See, from the document Milk mentioned
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A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:07 PM
If I start reading this, is this going to go into aliens
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You can't escape the aliens
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A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:10 PM
Well, I don't see aliens immedietly
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Was this written by that MIT professor who believed in aliens?
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There's something about people in the military taking metaphysics too seriously that really gets on my nerves
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Like I don't care if a random person on the internet has metaphysical beliefs, but I have higher standards for military people
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But what really gets me is when they start incorporating pseudo science (edited)
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IT'S METAPHYSICS, THERE IS NO ACTUAL PHYSICS
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Yuka
See, from the document Milk mentioned
Why tf would they talk about the gateway experience and then name the document in relation to the “gateway process”
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A long kiss goodnight
Like I don't care if a random person on the internet has metaphysical beliefs, but I have higher standards for military people
These are the same people that dosed civilians with LSD and thought that would result in mind control
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A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:14 PM
And most of all, I'm frustrated that it's not talking about Gateway systems, which would actually be interesting!
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wtf Is that where the Egg story came from?
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Honestly I’m surprised the CIA hasnt tried to round up tulpamancers
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Wait, I'm having a flashback to CIA mentioning tulpas in some other document
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Milk
Honestly I’m surprised the CIA hasnt tried to round up tulpamancers
A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:15 PM
They won't care as long as they think we're just weirdos with imaginary friends
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I don't want to look it up
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Yuka
Wait, I'm having a flashback to CIA mentioning tulpas in some other document
A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:15 PM
It's not what you think, the UFO was a "tulpoid"
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That's all I remember
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And the cow being abducted (edited)
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A long kiss goodnight
They won't care as long as they think we're just weirdos with imaginary friends
They thought lsd would lead to mind control
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They just do whatever the fuck they want
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The CIA experienced with the occult in the 70s thinking they might use it against Russia, realized it didn't work and has abandoned it since then. We're safe
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Milk
They thought lsd would lead to mind control
A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:16 PM
That's a fair point, but believing something fake is a powerful force
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:16 PM
I'm scared that if I took LSD, I'd have some kind of wild ego-death experience and be fucked up forever by it
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A long kiss goodnight 6/21/2023 11:16 PM
Anyway, gtg, Gray has dinner
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:17 PM
Despite knowing people who are perfectly fine taking it and do so regularly
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People lend too much credit to these documents
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The documents? Yes. The atrocities the US government is willing to commit? No
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I'm scared that if I took LSD, I'd have some kind of wild ego-death experience and be fucked up forever by it
Same tbh
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Everyone forgets about the Tuskegee study
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:19 PM
M&M in That Was Then, This Is Now is a cosmic sign for an M&M-themed child not to get into drugs
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talk about mind control
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who gave you permission to rummage through my memories like that
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:20 PM
We were and are huge S.E. Hinton fans
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Is that where the system name comes from? that's crazy
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:20 PM
It's not where the system name comes from, but it's a cool coincidence
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The system name comes from the fact that Owen is actually Eminem
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Little known fact
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:23 PM
I'm the real slim shady
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all the other slim shadies are just imatating
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You're too young for those references
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 11:24 PM
I was born in 2005, I'm not that young
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That's like, 6 years away from being a 90's kid.
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I was born in 2005, I'm not that young
What the fuck
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